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	<title>Comments on: Further to the transcript of Jeni Barnett&#8217;s diatribe on LBC 97.3FM</title>
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		<title>By: Valerie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valerie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 03:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that some of these diseases need to make a come back just so that these people that choose not to immunize get a shot of reality!  We are on the verge of eliminating most of these diseases for a reason...if they were harmless, then we would not have had scientists develop immunizations against them.  Countless children have died from these diseases and the only reason we are not contracting these diseases at full force is because it is no longer rampant and gaining strength.  It is not only irresponsable, but unconscionable not to immunize our children.  My child has autism.  I don&#039;t know if the immunization has caused his autism.  But I will take the autism over his death any day.  I don&#039;t know why he developped autism or if the vaccination even had anything to do with it.  I am not a scientist, just a mother who loves her child.  I just know that I will do anything I have to in order to protect my child.  Maybe these children that have not been innoculated are not contracting the diseases and if they do they get a milder form of it, maybe it has something to do with the fact that everyone around else them have been vaccinated.  It&#039;s irresponsable and ignorant what they are suggesting here. It&#039;s sort of like the teenager who thinks &quot;oh, I won&#039;t get pregnant if I have unprotected sex because it&#039;s my first time&quot; or &quot;If I jump up and down after having unprotected sex, I won&#039;t get pregnant&quot;!  And then surprise!  The kid got knocked up!  And then everyone feels sorry for her...it&#039;s stupid and ignorant!  So they can sit there, not immunize their children but I am not going to feel sorry if their child dies from a serious disease for which there is an innoculation for and I sure am not going to support their ignorance!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that some of these diseases need to make a come back just so that these people that choose not to immunize get a shot of reality!  We are on the verge of eliminating most of these diseases for a reason&#8230;if they were harmless, then we would not have had scientists develop immunizations against them.  Countless children have died from these diseases and the only reason we are not contracting these diseases at full force is because it is no longer rampant and gaining strength.  It is not only irresponsable, but unconscionable not to immunize our children.  My child has autism.  I don&#8217;t know if the immunization has caused his autism.  But I will take the autism over his death any day.  I don&#8217;t know why he developped autism or if the vaccination even had anything to do with it.  I am not a scientist, just a mother who loves her child.  I just know that I will do anything I have to in order to protect my child.  Maybe these children that have not been innoculated are not contracting the diseases and if they do they get a milder form of it, maybe it has something to do with the fact that everyone around else them have been vaccinated.  It&#8217;s irresponsable and ignorant what they are suggesting here. It&#8217;s sort of like the teenager who thinks &#8220;oh, I won&#8217;t get pregnant if I have unprotected sex because it&#8217;s my first time&#8221; or &#8220;If I jump up and down after having unprotected sex, I won&#8217;t get pregnant&#8221;!  And then surprise!  The kid got knocked up!  And then everyone feels sorry for her&#8230;it&#8217;s stupid and ignorant!  So they can sit there, not immunize their children but I am not going to feel sorry if their child dies from a serious disease for which there is an innoculation for and I sure am not going to support their ignorance!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeni Barnett, Ben Goldacre, LBC and M&#8217;Learned Friends: Spartacus is Back &#124; The Wardman Wire</title>
		<link>http://scepticsbook.com/2009/02/06/further-to-the-transcript-of-jeni-barnetts-diatribe-on-lbc-937fm/comment-page-1/#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeni Barnett, Ben Goldacre, LBC and M&#8217;Learned Friends: Spartacus is Back &#124; The Wardman Wire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 07:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://scepticsbook.com/2009/02/06/further-to-the-transcript-of-jeni-barnetts-diatribe-on-lbc-937fm/ Part 5 Quackometer [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Skeptical Dog &#187; What is it with Jeni and Jenny&#8230; ?</title>
		<link>http://scepticsbook.com/2009/02/06/further-to-the-transcript-of-jeni-barnetts-diatribe-on-lbc-937fm/comment-page-1/#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>Skeptical Dog &#187; What is it with Jeni and Jenny&#8230; ?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 05:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Full Transcript: Part 1 - Science Punk Part 2 - The Lay Scientist Part 3 - PodBlack Cat Part 4 - The Skeptic&#8217;s Book Part 5 - The Quackometer Part 6 - Holford [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ignorant refusal &#171; A canna’ change the laws of physics</title>
		<link>http://scepticsbook.com/2009/02/06/further-to-the-transcript-of-jeni-barnetts-diatribe-on-lbc-937fm/comment-page-1/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>Ignorant refusal &#171; A canna’ change the laws of physics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 23:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jeni Barnett spouting pure, unadulterated ignorance about the MMR Vaccine. &#171; The Milligan</title>
		<link>http://scepticsbook.com/2009/02/06/further-to-the-transcript-of-jeni-barnetts-diatribe-on-lbc-937fm/comment-page-1/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeni Barnett spouting pure, unadulterated ignorance about the MMR Vaccine. &#171; The Milligan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 1 - Science Punk Part 2 - The Lay Scientist Part 3 - PodBlack Cat Part 4 - The Skeptic&#8217;s Book Part 5 - The Quackometer Part 6 - Holford [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jeni Barnett Anti-Vaccination Drivel – Irresponsibility at its best. &#171; The Great DBH Rant</title>
		<link>http://scepticsbook.com/2009/02/06/further-to-the-transcript-of-jeni-barnetts-diatribe-on-lbc-937fm/comment-page-1/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeni Barnett Anti-Vaccination Drivel – Irresponsibility at its best. &#171; The Great DBH Rant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 4 from The Skeptic&#8217;s Book  JB: Amanda, talk to me.   Amanda: Hello! Um, I&#8217;ve got eight children,   JB: Mazel-tov! Are [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jeni Barnett and the LBC Radio MMR Vaccine Segment: Updated with links of blog coverage &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science</title>
		<link>http://scepticsbook.com/2009/02/06/further-to-the-transcript-of-jeni-barnetts-diatribe-on-lbc-937fm/comment-page-1/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeni Barnett and the LBC Radio MMR Vaccine Segment: Updated with links of blog coverage &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 11:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dr Rachael Dunlop of Sceptics&#8217; Book: Jeni Barnett talks to Amanda, mother of 8. This section covers ~ 19 to 24 mins of the Jeni Barnett MMR segment. To see the preceding section he... [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jeni Barnett&#8217;s MMR scaremongering - the role of homeopathy &#171; gimpy&#8217;s blog</title>
		<link>http://scepticsbook.com/2009/02/06/further-to-the-transcript-of-jeni-barnetts-diatribe-on-lbc-937fm/comment-page-1/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeni Barnett&#8217;s MMR scaremongering - the role of homeopathy &#171; gimpy&#8217;s blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 10:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alcari</title>
		<link>http://scepticsbook.com/2009/02/06/further-to-the-transcript-of-jeni-barnetts-diatribe-on-lbc-937fm/comment-page-1/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>Alcari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 10:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;she didn’t like giving drugs for things if you didn’t need it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, I agree there. Problem is that you DO need the shots, to keep from, you know, death.

I just can&#039;t wrap my head around the logic that says you don&#039;t vaccinate your children, because you know someone who had a disease after vaccination (which might be much less severe because of it) and  you know someone who wasn&#039;t vaccinated and didn&#039;t have the disease.

That&#039;s like saying &quot;I know someone who died in car crash while wearing seatbelts, and someone who survived while not wearing seatbelts. That&#039;s why I never wear a seatbelt!&quot; 

The ignorance is almost physically painfull.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>she didn’t like giving drugs for things if you didn’t need it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, I agree there. Problem is that you DO need the shots, to keep from, you know, death.</p>
<p>I just can&#8217;t wrap my head around the logic that says you don&#8217;t vaccinate your children, because you know someone who had a disease after vaccination (which might be much less severe because of it) and  you know someone who wasn&#8217;t vaccinated and didn&#8217;t have the disease.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s like saying &#8220;I know someone who died in car crash while wearing seatbelts, and someone who survived while not wearing seatbelts. That&#8217;s why I never wear a seatbelt!&#8221; </p>
<p>The ignorance is almost physically painfull.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeni Barnett and the Phone Call with Yasmin on the LBC MMR Segment &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science</title>
		<link>http://scepticsbook.com/2009/02/06/further-to-the-transcript-of-jeni-barnetts-diatribe-on-lbc-937fm/comment-page-1/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeni Barnett and the Phone Call with Yasmin on the LBC MMR Segment &#171; Holford Watch: Patrick Holford, nutritionism and bad science</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 15:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dr Rachel Dunlop of Sceptics&#8217; Book: Jeni Barnett talks to Amanda, mother of 8. This section covers ~ 19 to 24 mins of the Jeni Barnett MMR segment. To see the preceding section he... [...]</description>
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