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	<title>Comments on: How to get the Maternity Immunisation Allowance without getting your kids vaccinated.</title>
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		<title>By: Fred Mortgan</title>
		<link>http://scepticsbook.com/2009/03/01/how-to-get-the-maternity-immunisation-allowance-without-getting-your-kids-vaccinated/comment-page-1/#comment-11562</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Mortgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I am not convinced of either argument, I find it interesting that people think it &quot;ethical&quot; to not take the money if they don&#039;t have their kids vaccinated.  So people object, for whatever reason, and they should not get any money, but pay for you to have your kids vaccinated.  Surely if you believe so strongly that vaccinations are the right thing to do, then the 200bucks should be worth it.  Surely the right thing to do is NOT take the money if you believe in vaccinations, after all, you would get it done even if they weren&#039;t giving you free money to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I am not convinced of either argument, I find it interesting that people think it &#8220;ethical&#8221; to not take the money if they don&#8217;t have their kids vaccinated.  So people object, for whatever reason, and they should not get any money, but pay for you to have your kids vaccinated.  Surely if you believe so strongly that vaccinations are the right thing to do, then the 200bucks should be worth it.  Surely the right thing to do is NOT take the money if you believe in vaccinations, after all, you would get it done even if they weren&#8217;t giving you free money to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Justathought</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justathought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 09:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re. the comments for this article: Could these &quot;links&quot; to detected Austism cases and the supposed correlatable increases maybe be that as a society we are more aware of and detect autism at a higher rate than that which it was previously diagnosed?

Aside from that point, the fact that a monetary incentive needs to be offered to entice people to fully immunise their children is the saddest part of this article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re. the comments for this article: Could these &#8220;links&#8221; to detected Austism cases and the supposed correlatable increases maybe be that as a society we are more aware of and detect autism at a higher rate than that which it was previously diagnosed?</p>
<p>Aside from that point, the fact that a monetary incentive needs to be offered to entice people to fully immunise their children is the saddest part of this article.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; I object to this reading material.</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; I object to this reading material.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for religious reasons or because of misinformation spread by anti-vax groups such as the AVN. In a scheme introduced in 1997, parents who completed the government schedule for childhood vaccinations received a one of payment [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for religious reasons or because of misinformation spread by anti-vax groups such as the AVN. In a scheme introduced in 1997, parents who completed the government schedule for childhood vaccinations received a one of payment [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; A brief report from today&#8217;s debate.</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; A brief report from today&#8217;s debate.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 12:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] course she was referring to the Maternity Immunisation Allowance scheme introduced in 1997, which they also get access to by the way). Professor McIntyre is a professor and researcher scientist, not a GP, therefore he [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] course she was referring to the Maternity Immunisation Allowance scheme introduced in 1997, which they also get access to by the way). Professor McIntyre is a professor and researcher scientist, not a GP, therefore he [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BastardSheep</title>
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		<dc:creator>BastardSheep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually autism rates have been going up regularly in Europe for a while, the last few years vaccination rates in both locations (and more) have gone down, autism still goes up.  

I suggest you look up the difference between correlation and causation.  Just because two numbers correlate to some degree, does not make them related in the slightest.  The lack of correlation in the last few years once vaccination rates started dropping backs that up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually autism rates have been going up regularly in Europe for a while, the last few years vaccination rates in both locations (and more) have gone down, autism still goes up.  </p>
<p>I suggest you look up the difference between correlation and causation.  Just because two numbers correlate to some degree, does not make them related in the slightest.  The lack of correlation in the last few years once vaccination rates started dropping backs that up.</p>
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		<title>By: John Fryer</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Fryer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi

The situation in Australia is not the same as for USA, England, Japan or Europe as a whole.

What is the rate of autism in Australia in 2009 and in past years?

USA with the highest vaccinations has the highest autism and Europe with low numbers of vaccinations has the lowest rates of autism.

It would therefore be simple to compare autism in vaccinated and non vaccinated children very easily if the rate of vaccination is around the 50 per cent level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p>
<p>The situation in Australia is not the same as for USA, England, Japan or Europe as a whole.</p>
<p>What is the rate of autism in Australia in 2009 and in past years?</p>
<p>USA with the highest vaccinations has the highest autism and Europe with low numbers of vaccinations has the lowest rates of autism.</p>
<p>It would therefore be simple to compare autism in vaccinated and non vaccinated children very easily if the rate of vaccination is around the 50 per cent level.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, perhaps that is part of the reason. At least they have to listen to the doctor&#039;s spiel before signing a &quot;conscientious objector&quot; form. I just think the objectors should have the nous to not take the money. Why do they need to sign a form anyway? They could just as easily not get the vaccine and leave the $200 for the sensible people who are protecting their kids anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, perhaps that is part of the reason. At least they have to listen to the doctor&#8217;s spiel before signing a &#8220;conscientious objector&#8221; form. I just think the objectors should have the nous to not take the money. Why do they need to sign a form anyway? They could just as easily not get the vaccine and leave the $200 for the sensible people who are protecting their kids anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean the Blogonaut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean the Blogonaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess the reasoning is that if you get them in the clinic that there is greater chance that they might change their mind or see sense.

That being said it still smells like a rort?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the reasoning is that if you get them in the clinic that there is greater chance that they might change their mind or see sense.</p>
<p>That being said it still smells like a rort?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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